question about blades

[zantettsuken]

I've ordered a mystery box and got an Aeon v4 in Adegan silver and DP(idk what dp means) in ultra edge heavy grade being my first saber. So far I am loving it although I wasn't lucky with sound, but what I am wondering is that for heavy grade blade, lets say when I hit something and apply force, I notice the inside of the plastic wrinkling making a pattern like an X spiraling around the blade when lit up. It does this even when I bend it with my hands with a little bit of force. I can also hear the plastic wrinkling when this happens. Is this suppose to happen for heavy grade blades? Did I get sent a mid grade blade instead on accident?.

[tx_tuff]

Sounds like a mid grade to me. Take it off and take a picture of how thick it is and we would be able to answer the question better.

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[Saso Is-kor]

This thread shows all four blade types and their various thicknesses: http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=666.0

I would still recommend you post up a picture like TX said so that we can get a better idea of what it looks like and the pattern you mentioned in the blade film.

[zantettsuken]

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1wMLkNMd52fIrflDlMVpUI40WRUvk8VxL
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1rIUpSFPUcbNVQjO-CBk5-EI3L76Hstgy
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1vdVGfCv0je1d5j6-SMeSRFouq7pWJIjq
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1RnElVr8UeYTt3PuxjRjHw9F7O7luiABN


Idk how to post pictures onto here so I just used google drive, the first two link is when i bend the blade just a little bit. Sorry for bad images, used my phone.

[Saso Is-kor]

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1wMLkNMd52fIrflDlMVpUI40WRUvk8VxL
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1rIUpSFPUcbNVQjO-CBk5-EI3L76Hstgy
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1vdVGfCv0je1d5j6-SMeSRFouq7pWJIjq
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1RnElVr8UeYTt3PuxjRjHw9F7O7luiABN


Idk how to post pictures onto here so I just used google drive, the first two link is when i bend the blade just a little bit. Sorry for bad images, used my phone.

Based on picture #4 that is definitely a heavy grade blade for sure. As for the distortion I think I can kind of see what you are talking about but the illumination of the blade makes it tough of course. It looks like some distortion with the blade film but since I've owned a saber for just about a week and a half I'll let more qualified members on here say for sure and what you can do about it.

[Edon Bluewolf]

It looks like you did get heavy grade ultra edge.  Never had this issue with that type of blade, however it is very common with every mid-grade non ultra edge I own and have used for medium dueling.  On those it becomes a permanent and ugly spiraling wrinkle where impacts from dueling occurred.  The way I have solved this is by using a hot blow dryer to heat up the open end enough that the hot glue starts to melt, and then I pull it all off carefully with my finger.  Once the glue is completely removed and the diffusion film is free to move and adjust inside the blade, the wrinkles all go away. Just letting you know how I handle much more extreme wrinkles on the mid-grade blades.  If the wrinkles are not permanent, or too visible on your heavy grade ultra edge, I would just leave well enough alone but to each their own, however I know we can all be particular about certain things and not so about others.

I guess you can reapply the hot glue again once the wrinkles are gone to secure the diffusion film, but since that just leads to it happening again on mid-grades, I don't and just let the diffusion film be free within the blade.  Not really a problem with the blade installed as it has nowhere to go, but when not installed it can be annoying to have the diffusion film slipping out the bottom of the blade while handling.  Again food for thought as a possible solution but with caveats to consider.

[zantettsuken]

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1T15vY055x1sXiiJwOXVgTLzy-L7hRVZD

Here's one that shows it a little bit better when I use a color disc. It only happens when I bend the blade slightly but it would go back to normal when I leave it alone (not bend it). Thanks for the tip about the glue though. I guess I'll just deal with it, hope it doesn't become permanent.

[Rapine]

Hey there zantettsuken,

It ALMOST looks like you might have some foreign material inside your blade.  I had a small cobweb in one of mine once, and it really showed up.

Just check your blade for crap...that'd be a quick fix.

The film inside is Mylar.  That means it has a metal coating of sorts, and is in fact susceptible to heat and humidity - not kidding.

Stand them upright in a cool, dry place overnight.  The film might straighten out.

A final solution would be to get a long piece of dowel or something, and flatten it out by hand.  BE CAREFUL if you do that.  Crimp or tear that film, and it's game over for that blade.

Lastly, I do recommend having a blade for dueling (that you don't mind seeing scuffed up and a bit beat), and another (potentially mid grade) for display.

Hope this helps.

[DaddyFlip]

I'm going to say something probably stupid, but blades, especially non-UE, are better observed from a distance. I have medium regular blades that look awesome with any color, but they will form scratches and "imperfections" with use on the inside. On the outside, integrity is perfect. Therefore, I've learned not to look at my blades up close, but to enjoy the overall presence and glow from normal or "fighting" distance. When I do this and concentrate on wielding or spinning, I'm not so concerned with the intricate details of how the interior of the blade is holding up. Everyone has a different standard, of course.