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Ultra Sabers Discussion => Ultra Sabers Questions => Topic started by: TheCharlax on January 13, 2021, 07:02:53 AM



Title: Second Hand Price Evaluation
Post by: TheCharlax on January 13, 2021, 07:02:53 AM
Someone nearby appears to be selling a Dark Initiate LE v4 with possibly a mid-grade blade and an orange LED.  Seller says it's 5 years old and is asking for $100.  No sound, standard button.  I believe the base price for this model is $80, and I was thinking of offering $70, but in your opinion, what would be a reasonable counter-offer for me to make?



Title: Re: Second Hand Price Evaluation
Post by: DarthProdigal on January 13, 2021, 07:18:45 AM
Someone nearby appears to be selling a Dark Initiate LE v4 with possibly a mid-grade blade and a yellow LED.  Seller says it's 5 years old and is asking for $100.  No sound, standard button.  I believe the base price for this model is $80, so what would be a reasonable counter-offer for me to make?


Well, that's kind of a pickle. On the one hand you could easily say just that "online I could order the same thing right now and get it brand new for $20 cheaper than you're asking, so drop it to $70 and if it's in good condition I'm thinking that might be more fair/tempting." Since you're getting a discount and they are still recouping profit on something they probably got some enjoyment and use out of. Not to mention that if they did use it, you have no idea how much that blade has gone through, or if they kept it "safe" till you see it. It could be all kinds of scuffed up or whatnot so I'd want recent pictures before committing anyway.

On the other hand it's a reality that the economy isn't great right now and things are hard for many, so they may be selling it out of necessity more than desire... if this is the case that could be why they rounded the price up more so than "getting over" on an uninformed individual. Heck maybe a little bit of both? So idk, I wouldn't let compassion blind you, but also try not to be ignorant of their potential plight from a negotiation/haggling standpoint if they are resolute and refuse to budge on their price.

So yeah, I'd call $70 fair-ish for both parties, and $60 more a "great deal" for you that'd be "hard to resist. But of course that's just my take on it. Best of luck, and may the Force serve you well. If in doubt use a mind trick and say "you will hand me the lightsaber and return home happily" with that classic hand wave. But I suppose that's the more acceptable of the Sith options...


Title: Re: Second Hand Price Evaluation
Post by: TheCharlax on January 14, 2021, 08:56:12 AM
Thanks for the input!  Your opinion was much appreciated!


Title: Re: Second Hand Price Evaluation
Post by: Cyclops942 on January 15, 2021, 01:04:29 AM
Pictures, pictures, pictures!

Keep in mind that this will have NO warranty.  For me, that makes it a non-starter without a deep discount from new.


Title: Re: Second Hand Price Evaluation
Post by: TheCharlax on January 15, 2021, 08:04:19 AM
Here's the link.

https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/tag/d/honolulu-metal-hilt-40-inch-fx/7261246315.html (https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/tag/d/honolulu-metal-hilt-40-inch-fx/7261246315.html)

Honestly, it's not even my first choice of hilt or color, so I'm not very inclined unless I can get a really good deal. 


Title: Re: Second Hand Price Evaluation
Post by: Karmack on January 15, 2021, 05:52:47 PM
Well, that's a Dark Apprentice LE v4, Fire Orange, stunt, looks like a 32" blade, maybe 36".    Base cost for one new from US is $80 plus $10 for the longer blade (24" is standard).

So $90 new, he's asking $100.   If he's including shipping, then you're about even.

That being said...   Its 5 years old, looks great but its still older, and as Cyclops said there is no warranty. 

I think I would offer $70 max, shipping included.   I'd probably open with $55.

But if its also not your first choice of color and hilt, I'd walk away and order what I wanted from US.


Title: Re: Second Hand Price Evaluation
Post by: TheCharlax on January 15, 2021, 08:08:51 PM
Thank you.  I wasn't sure if I had made the right price calculations, but your post helps a lot for this and any future scenarios.  Fortunately, shipping isn't necessary in this case, but I believe the seller was trying to use it as leverage to justify the pricing(along with several other not-entirely-coherent reasons).  I was willing to go as high as $75 for their trouble, but it appears that they would rather look for another buyer, so good luck to them.


Title: Re: Second Hand Price Evaluation
Post by: DarthProdigal on January 15, 2021, 09:32:59 PM
Thank you.  I wasn't sure if I had made the right price calculations, but your post helps a lot for this and any future scenarios.  Fortunately, shipping isn't necessary in this case, but I believe the seller was trying to use it as leverage to justify the pricing(along with several other not-entirely-coherent reasons).  I was willing to go as high as $75 for their trouble, but it appears that they would rather look for another buyer, so good luck to them.

Not bad, that sounds like what's best for both parties in this situation anyway... especially with your order on the way. Glad you're satisfied with the outcome.


Title: Re: Second Hand Price Evaluation
Post by: MercuryKungFu on January 24, 2021, 06:45:53 AM
WAIT. You mean to tell me that it doesn't have the best sound board on the market? Buy from Ultrasabers. That's what I have to say about it!