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Title: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Krace on November 06, 2013, 02:49:44 PM What is an Emerald Saber? An Emerald Saber is an Ultrasaber that has been equipped with the most powerful and versatile LED driver on the market for lightsabers. Thus giving you the power to create any color lightsaber with a couple mouse clicks at any given time.
Before you harness the power of an Emerald Saber it is very important that you educate yourself on it's capabilities first. Please watch the videos below and prepare to have your mind blown by the versatility of the Emerald driver. What does the Emerald Driver allow you to do? Gives you the ability to adjust the current on 4 individual channels that control 4 different colors (for example Red, Green, Blue, and White) and mix and match any of these adjusted channels to create almost limitless possibilities for different blade colors Gives you the ability to turn on/off a pulse mode so you can constantly pulse between two different custom colors Gives you the ability to adjust the time and duration of the pulse while in pulse mode Gives you the ability to have a Flash on Clash of ANY COLOR with any main color blade. No more color blending during FoC and no more limitations on the combinations. Throw the FoC Chart in the garbage and expand to unlimited possibilities (Available on Sabers with Sound only) Gives you the ability to change the time and duration of your Flash on Clash (Available on Sabers with Sound only) Gives you the ability to adjust the number of times your saber flashes on clash (Available on Sabers with Sound only) Gives you the ability to make all these changes DYNAMICALLY, no DIP switch adjustments, no loading bar, no SD Card, no pin adjusting, no waiting. You click one button and you see your lightsaber blade change to the color of your choice right before your eyes http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/113.htm (http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/113.htm) I've watched the videos and HOLY CRAP! This WILL be AWESOME! Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: JEStucker on November 06, 2013, 02:59:14 PM I just got the email and watched the videos... HOLY CRAP!!!
I want!!! I want!!! I want!!! Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: MikeOretta on November 06, 2013, 03:33:20 PM Yeah I just saw the videos. Especially like the pulse effect, being able to go to different colors while in idle mode. This is sick!
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Mrwarcraft on November 06, 2013, 04:13:35 PM Man i wish i wasnt broke. how long do i have to wait for ultrasaber to have some sort of code/sale for the emerald
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Krace on November 06, 2013, 04:21:02 PM The current 10% off sale will work for all sabers with sound. Unfortunately today is the last day. Keep your eyes peeled and save your money because there should be some Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals coming later this month.
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: MikeOretta on November 06, 2013, 04:28:54 PM I can't wait til someone gets theirs and does a full review on it.
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: danny2581i on November 06, 2013, 05:13:50 PM I wish I waited 3 days now before ordering my first saber. :(
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: A L STORM on November 06, 2013, 05:40:59 PM MAN! I'm so psyched after watching the videos!
Why UltraSabers, do you have to make me want another saber, WHY!.... :-X :o ;D Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Krace on November 06, 2013, 06:29:43 PM Brilliant timing and marketing really. Bring out a brand spanking new product on the last day of a sale. I have a feeling a number of people are going to jump on this. Of course even if there wasn't a sale going on, it's still an awesome new product.
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Azean on November 06, 2013, 06:37:14 PM Does the 10% work on the emerald sabers ? I tried earlier and it said the code wasn't valid :(
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Krace on November 06, 2013, 06:50:27 PM Well, it appears you are correct. Neither code I know of works for the Emerald. I guess I'm not shocked, it is a new product. It could be intentional, or unintentional. I imagine it's something they will address later.
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Azean on November 06, 2013, 06:55:57 PM Yeah, I would have been surprised if it had worked tbh with it being new, though I had been looking at getting another saber for xmas, kinda glad I held off after seeing this!
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Theron on November 06, 2013, 07:00:40 PM I bet this'll be cheaper than the "other boards" that can do colour changing. I think I might come back to Ultrasabers now!
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Vex on November 06, 2013, 08:01:11 PM Time to start saving again. This is a must have.
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: NiNscorp75 on November 06, 2013, 08:04:50 PM :'(I FREAKING LUV THIS COMPANY!! :'(
so when can I send my saber in for a upgrade!!! ::) Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Vyk on November 06, 2013, 08:09:55 PM Ensuing slew of mostly-unsupported "Emerald sucks!" posts on that other saber forum in 5... 4... 3...
Seriously, this thing looks AMAZING. I was just yesterday thinking about getting an new saber, wondering why I can't seem to find some of the old FoC color combinations, and debating getting RGB, and then this comes along. Time to start saving up money while waiting for some feedback to show up on the forum (I'm not an early adopter :) ). Theron, not sure what prices are on said "other boards", but it looks like it adds $90 for a two-channel and $140 for a four-channel. Considering that an RGB with FoC adds $125, that's a price I can get behind. edit: Looks like it's not available with sound on the Initiates, Dominix/Aeon, and Standard Issues. It's still available without sound, though. Space issues, I'd guess. Bummer though, since I love some of those simpler hilts. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: MikeOretta on November 06, 2013, 08:17:16 PM Ensuing slew of mostly-unsupported "Emerald sucks!" posts on that other saber forum in 5... 4... 3... Seriously, this thing looks AMAZING. I was just yesterday thinking about getting an new saber, wondering why I can't seem to find some of the old FoC color combinations, and debating getting RGB, and then this comes along. Time to start saving up money while waiting for some feedback to show up on the forum (I'm not an early adopter :) ). Theron, not sure what prices are on said "other boards", but it looks like it adds $90 for a two-channel and $140 for a four-channel. Considering that an RGB with FoC adds $125, that's a price I can get behind. This is going to save a lot of money for people who store a drawer full of MHS units. Also for those who like the easy switch on hand to change the color, I like to think of the Emerald option for those sabers that cannot have RGB such as the Guardian or even better the Archon 2.1. You can go from Luke to Obi-Wan by plugging it into your computer rather than swapping LEDS. Although the work may be similar, the emerald option can choose any FoC while the person with swappable LEDS has to go with whatever is fixed. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: marquis_devaux on November 06, 2013, 08:20:42 PM All I can say is "HOLY FRACKEN COOL!!!!" :o. Damn you Ultra Sabers, there goes another 400.00 bucks as I must have the Manticore with the 4 channel driver. If anybody knew how much I spent on sabers this year they would have me committed. ;D
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: marquis_devaux on November 06, 2013, 08:27:26 PM Couldn't wait just ordered the Manticore stunt with the 4 channel driver. Can't wait can't wait!!! :o
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: MikeOretta on November 06, 2013, 08:31:57 PM Couldn't wait just ordered the Manticore stunt with the 4 channel driver. Can't wait can't wait!!! :o I want a detailed review of everything about that saber when you get it! Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: marquis_devaux on November 06, 2013, 08:34:43 PM I am out of town on business until next Thursday, but I will try and post something that night when I get home and check it out. Was thinking about getting a Manticore anyway, this just made my decision MUCH easier. =P
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Krace on November 06, 2013, 08:37:20 PM Couldn't wait just ordered the Manticore stunt with the 4 channel driver. Can't wait can't wait!!! :o Speaking of the Manticore... Now people can order an "RGB" Manticore with Sound and not just in Stunt. I know people love the shortness of the hilt, but you always had to chose, sound or RGB. Now you can have multi-color and sound. Heck, you could even have a double blade one. That would be a very nice double blade with smaller hilts. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: James Casey on November 06, 2013, 08:40:18 PM This looks amazing. Definitely one to consider for my next purchase... Maybe come the Spring, I might get a Guardian or Bane with this. I love the idea of a purple 'sabre with the occasional light pulse of yellow - it'd match the first 'sabre my character had in a story I wrote a long, long time ago. Oddly enough, he went on to own an arsenal of 'sabres, all colours, all shapes and sizes... :D
Coolest of all? The pulse remains an option on the stunt 'sabres. That's very tempting... Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Darth_Phobius47 on November 06, 2013, 09:47:29 PM I'm now thinking of just getting a stunt Consular with the 2 channel R-G Emerald driver. I did want it with sound, but I already have one with sound and I could always send it back in later for the obsidian. Then again I could be selfless and have my sister's initiate v3 sent back to get the 2 channel R-B so she can have any color between red and blue... Damn those deer for wrecking my car!!!!!! (Sigh) well maybe I can send her saber in for her birthday. We shall see what my next two paychecks say!
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Darth Nekesus on November 06, 2013, 09:51:17 PM Definetly getting this with my next saber. I have always loved the idea of being able to do stuff like this for a saber.
Also just to put this into perspective, and give a reason of why you should get this for any saber you get with sound. The Emerald driver costs $140. That is a one time payment. A MLS unit costs $35 by itself and an extra $35 with FoC coming to a total of $70 for an MLS unit with FoC. That is half the price of the Emerald driver. If you were planning to buy more than one MLS unit with FoC for a saber with sound, It would be more worth your money to buy the Emerald because you will be getting over 4 billion possible colors for your blade. So yeah. That's why I'm getting it. Assuming I did the calculations correctly for this, the number of possible idle blade colors is: 4,129,476,120 The majority of these colors are very little variation from each other but it would just be cool to know that you have that many options. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Aurentis on November 06, 2013, 10:04:27 PM This. Is. Awesome.
I may have to see if I can send in my sabers for some overhauls... Hmm. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Theron on November 06, 2013, 11:45:26 PM Has Ultra introduced a "shimmer" or "flicker" feature? For the blade that is, ALA the movie effects.
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Oramac on November 06, 2013, 11:56:39 PM I can't even see the videos at work, and this is AWESOME!!! I'll be sending my DWG in to get this installed when I find a pot of gold somewhere.
I'm a little disappointed you can't get this on the Dominix/Initiate v3's with sound, since I'd send those in to get the conversion also. But alas, I understand size is an issue. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Vyk on November 07, 2013, 12:25:24 AM I'm a little disappointed you can't get this on the Dominix/Initiate v3's with sound, since I'd send those in to get the conversion also. But alas, I understand size is an issue. I'm curious to know if a 2-channel would fit. It appears to be thinner than a 4-channel, and would be perfect for me; I've been wavering on which green or blue I want for one, and what blue or green it would FoC to.Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Ultra on November 07, 2013, 01:47:45 AM Has Ultra introduced a "shimmer" or "flicker" feature? For the blade that is, ALA the movie effects. That's something the Emerald can do, you just have to configure the idle pulse timing and color and you can make it shimmer any way you want. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Vex on November 07, 2013, 02:24:21 AM Is it possible to send in a saber and have it upgraded with the Emerald driver? I would love this on my Scorpion.
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Aletani on November 07, 2013, 02:46:34 AM What is an Emerald Saber? An Emerald Saber is an Ultrasaber that has been equipped with the most powerful and versatile LED driver on the market for lightsabers. Thus giving you the power to create any color lightsaber with a couple mouse clicks at any given time. Before you harness the power of an Emerald Saber it is very important that you educate yourself on it's capabilities first. Please watch the videos below and prepare to have your mind blown by the versatility of the Emerald driver. What does the Emerald Driver allow you to do? Gives you the ability to adjust the current on 4 individual channels that control 4 different colors (for example Red, Green, Blue, and White) and mix and match any of these adjusted channels to create almost limitless possibilities for different blade colors Gives you the ability to turn on/off a pulse mode so you can constantly pulse between two different custom colors Gives you the ability to adjust the time and duration of the pulse while in pulse mode Gives you the ability to have a Flash on Clash of ANY COLOR with any main color blade. No more color blending during FoC and no more limitations on the combinations. Throw the FoC Chart in the garbage and expand to unlimited possibilities (Available on Sabers with Sound only) Gives you the ability to change the time and duration of your Flash on Clash (Available on Sabers with Sound only) Gives you the ability to adjust the number of times your saber flashes on clash (Available on Sabers with Sound only) Gives you the ability to make all these changes DYNAMICALLY, no DIP switch adjustments, no loading bar, no SD Card, no pin adjusting, no waiting. You click one button and you see your lightsaber blade change to the color of your choice right before your eyes [url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/113.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.ultrasabers.com/category-s/113.htm[/url]) I've watched the videos and HOLY CRAP! This WILL be AWESOME! So I filled out a Catalyst Emerald options screen to see what it would cost...... :o $538 and some change, before shipping costs. Yikes! But an Emerald Catalyst with Sentinel Yellow default will most likely be my next saber. . . Next year. . . if ever... Someday I'll have a fully loaded saber... Someday... :-[ Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Darth_Phobius47 on November 07, 2013, 02:51:40 AM I'm not even sure if I could afford a saber with sound AND the Emerald driver... Well not all at once anyway! :)
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: JEStucker on November 07, 2013, 02:54:41 AM Going to start saving my pennies...
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Darth Nekesus on November 07, 2013, 02:56:54 AM Luckily my parents havent been able to order my christmas present yet so I'll be able to get the Emerald with Obsidian. might even add some money myself for a recharge port.
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Jedijosh on November 07, 2013, 03:43:43 AM Right now I am really glad I got my guardian when I did because I would not have been able to afford it with emetald :).
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: MikeOretta on November 07, 2013, 04:01:42 AM Right now I am really glad I got my guardian when I did because I would not have been able to afford it with emetald :). You can still order a regular guardian. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Avarius on November 07, 2013, 04:21:13 AM I never get up really early and stay awake for anything, but when I heard that email notification, I plugged in my headphones into my iPad as not to disturbed anyone and watched the videos. Haha! XD
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Aletani on November 07, 2013, 04:33:55 AM I never get up really early and stay awake for anything, but when I heard that email notification, I plugged in my headphones into my iPad as not to disturbed anyone and watched the videos. Haha! XD Lol! point for that. light side, hope that's what you want. hahahaha Love it! Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Ealotech on November 07, 2013, 04:36:36 AM I know what to get for my birthday next year ;)
This is just absolutely awesome Ultrasaber! Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: I_krg_I on November 07, 2013, 04:44:34 AM Is it possible to send in a saber and have it upgraded with the Emerald driver? I would love this on my Scorpion. That's a really good question.. I would love to get this installed on my new Manticore. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Jedijosh on November 07, 2013, 04:45:41 AM You can still order a regular guardian. I know but the choice would have been agonizing :o :). Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: jedicri on November 07, 2013, 04:52:25 AM Ensuing slew of mostly-unsupported "Emerald sucks!" posts on that other saber forum in 5... 4... 3... I know it was said in jest but just so anyone who is not in the know: One forum forbids the discussion of US as has been agreed between both parties. The other forum actually welcomes positive discussions of US and whatever sabers are out there but it will not tolerate "slew of mostly-unsupported 'Emerald sucks!' posts" or any other negative posts as outlined in the Regulation and Forum rules as all members are bound by it. Back to topic: I'm really impressed with this new LED driver. I especially like its quick and ease of use with the launcher. Well done! Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: haldir on November 07, 2013, 06:36:09 AM so what is the difference between RGBW and RGBA other than the obvious white vs amber(orange) led... as in, does it make a difference? can you achieve the same colors from either?
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Prowl 1701 on November 07, 2013, 06:56:13 AM Oh my, this looks AWESOME! I'm never going to have money again :P
I've always said a Bellicose looks good in any color... Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Darth Zexar on November 07, 2013, 07:51:05 AM so what is the difference between RGBW and RGBA other than the obvious white vs amber(orange) led... as in, does it make a difference? can you achieve the same colors from either? I believe you won't get white as pure with the RGBA. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Pagru on November 07, 2013, 09:50:30 AM Definetly getting this with my next saber. I have always loved the idea of being able to do stuff like this for a saber. Also just to put this into perspective, and give a reason of why you should get this for any saber you get with sound. The Emerald driver costs $140. That is a one time payment. A MLS unit costs $35 by itself and an extra $35 with FoC coming to a total of $70 for an MLS unit with FoC. That is half the price of the Emerald driver. If you were planning to buy more than one MLS unit with FoC for a saber with sound, It would be more worth your money to buy the Emerald because you will be getting over 4 billion possible colors for your blade. So yeah. That's why I'm getting it. Assuming I did the calculations correctly for this, the number of possible idle blade colors is: 4,129,476,120 The majority of these colors are very little variation from each other but it would just be cool to know that you have that many options. my of number understanding of number theory says 4,228,250,625 which means 30,201,790 per dollar (though as above some are identical and some very similar, I lack the skill to calculate it) so just, wow, this isn't just pick the color you like you actually get to choose your exact hue and compensate for different blade types to boot. saying that,I do have one problem with it, when I get one I suspect that i will spend MANY MANY hours fiddling with all the different options and clogging up my HDD with my million or so fave setups, oh dear :-p Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Kfd on November 07, 2013, 11:18:18 AM This has got to be the best thing since sliced bread - I want one bad ;D
US definitely has a way with getting me to willingly splurge big. All I can say is that I am so glad I didn't scrounge hard to put in an order during the last raffle or else I definitely wouldn't be able to afford an emerald saber anytime soon. saying that,I do have one problem with it, when I get one I suspect that i will spend MANY MANY hours fiddling with all the different options and clogging up my HDD with my million or so fave setups, oh dear :-p I can't agree with you more ;D Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: James Casey on November 07, 2013, 01:45:58 PM So I filled out a Catalyst Emerald options screen to see what it would cost...... :o $538 and some change, before shipping costs. Yikes! :o What on earth did you add to it? I checked out a Bane with almost everything ticked and it ended up about $400. Did you have the recharge port included? Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Molina00 on November 07, 2013, 02:43:10 PM Oh my, this looks AWESOME! I'm never going to have money again :P I've always said a Bellicose looks good in any color... You and me both. Since the Bellicose is on my wantlist, If I do get an Emerald equipped saber I will probably go with that. An Emerald Bellicose tricked out with all the options (except recharge port) would be $431.50, that's not as bad I thought it would be. Still pricey, but doable. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Krace on November 07, 2013, 03:03:24 PM so what is the difference between RGBW and RGBA other than the obvious white vs amber(orange) led... as in, does it make a difference? can you achieve the same colors from either? He did say in the video that you can make the same amber as the RGBA with the RGBW, but if you don't get the RGBW you won't be able to get as much of a pure white or be able to add that pure white to other colors. Since he recommended in the video to get RGBW, that's what I would get if I was making one. So I filled out a Catalyst Emerald options screen to see what it would cost...... :o $538 and some change, before shipping costs. Yikes! But an Emerald Catalyst with Sentinel Yellow default will most likely be my next saber. . . Next year. . . if ever... Someday I'll have a fully loaded saber... Someday... :-[ :o What on earth did you add to it? I checked out a Bane with almost everything ticked and it ended up about $400. Did you have the recharge port included? Probably an illuminated switch and a recharge port. I made a Catalyst in SY, 4-channel driver, Li-Ion batteries only, sound-no av switch, and a covertech wheel and I got $406. Of course I already have one of their chargers and a couple Covertech clips so I didn't add those. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Ealotech on November 07, 2013, 03:40:36 PM Here is what I'm going to get when my birthday comes next year.
Item Name: The Graflex CE with Sound (Emerald) Item Price: $675.50 Options: Blade LED Color:Sunrider's Destiny for Emerald Emerald Driver Configuration:4 Channel Emerald Driver - RGBW LED Flash on Clash:Flash Silver for Emerald Pulse Mode:Pulse to Sentinel Yellow Battery Configuration:Li-Ion Setup for Emerald (Batteries Included *ONLY*) Recharge Port:Recharge Port + 0.2A Slow Charger + Kill Key Blade Option:UltraEdge Heavy Grade Sound:Yes, Obsidian USB Sound w/ Green Illuminated AV Switch AV Switch Channel:Direct Drive (ALWAYS ON) [Recommended Front Button Color:Gold Rear Button Color:Gold Blade Set Screw Type:Socket Blade Tip:POINTED TIP Include Retention Screw Wrench:No Thanks Include Blade Plug:Yes Include Covertec Clip:No Thanks Shipping Cost to Canada USPS $47.06 So grand Total will be $722.56 :P But it will be worth it because Ultrasabers is awesome! Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Krace on November 07, 2013, 03:58:57 PM Interesting color choices you went with there for the blade. That's definitely a pricey saber. I suppose if you're gonna go big though, you might as well get the Cadillac of sabers, nickel plating and all.
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Ealotech on November 07, 2013, 04:02:49 PM ooooooooooooooh yeaaaaaaaaaaa :D
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Racona Nova on November 07, 2013, 04:35:04 PM What I still don't understand: why do we have to order a specific blade colour (as well as Pulse colour and FoC colour) when you can actually configure your custom colours through the Emerald LED Driver?
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Deep on November 07, 2013, 04:37:41 PM Here is what I'm going to get when my birthday comes next year. Item Name: The Graflex CE with Sound (Emerald) Item Price: $675.50 Options: Blade LED Color:Sunrider's Destiny for Emerald Emerald Driver Configuration:4 Channel Emerald Driver - RGBW LED Flash on Clash:Flash Silver for Emerald Pulse Mode:Pulse to Sentinel Yellow Battery Configuration:Li-Ion Setup for Emerald (Batteries Included *ONLY*) Recharge Port:Recharge Port + 0.2A Slow Charger + Kill Key Blade Option:UltraEdge Heavy Grade Sound:Yes, Obsidian USB Sound w/ Green Illuminated AV Switch AV Switch Channel:Direct Drive (ALWAYS ON) [Recommended Front Button Color:Gold Rear Button Color:Gold Blade Set Screw Type:Socket Blade Tip:POINTED TIP Include Retention Screw Wrench:No Thanks Include Blade Plug:Yes Include Covertec Clip:No Thanks Shipping Cost to Canada USPS $47.06 So grand Total will be $722.56 :P But it will be worth it because Ultrasabers is awesome! Remove the Kill Key and just get a Recharge Port imo. Kill Keys are pointless and grand waste of cash. Again, just my opinion. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Krace on November 07, 2013, 04:55:04 PM A bonus of removing the Kill Key would be that you could get a 1.2A Fast Charger with the money you save.
What I still don't understand: why do we have to order a specific blade colour (as well as Pulse colour and FoC colour) when you can actually configure your custom colours through the Emerald LED Driver? As it was stated in the videos, these are the "default colors" set on your saber when shipped to you. Just colors that you would like to have when you first get it. If you're immediately going to fuss with it when you get it then just pick whatever. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Racona Nova on November 07, 2013, 05:00:48 PM All right, thanks Krace ^^ So the former "forum colors" (and BR?) don't need to be resistored anymore because they could theoretically configured right out of the launcher?
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: MikeOretta on November 07, 2013, 05:47:32 PM All right, thanks Krace ^^ So the former "forum colors" (and BR?) don't need to be resistored anymore because they could theoretically configured right out of the launcher? The new board drives the right amount of voltage. No more resistors. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Azean on November 07, 2013, 05:56:38 PM Hmm since reading all this yesterday I've been wondering what hilt and options to go with lol. before the emerald driver was announced I was leaning towards a Consular hilt, I think I still will go for that as its pretty much the last saber on my must have list, but having said that there are a couple of other designs that have caught my eye ;)
As for led options I think I have to get the 4-channel RGBW, though im not sure about the switch it to go for an illuminated switch or not and if so what channel to have it on, I must admit that having it always on sounds quite tempting! Just have to wait now until I see a cool offer or dotd, or until i break and have to have now NOW! - cant wait to see people reviews and pics for this :) Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Krace on November 07, 2013, 06:08:24 PM Well, it seems they are offering the Emerald sabers in DotD now. Also don't forget that Black Friday and Cyber Monday are coming this Month. If you can hold off, I am betting it'll be worth it.
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Darth Zexar on November 07, 2013, 06:35:13 PM Well, it seems they are offering the Emerald sabers in DotD now. Also don't forget that Black Friday and Cyber Monday are coming this Month. If you can hold off, I am betting it'll be worth it. My plan for a decked out Scorpion ;p Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Prowl 1701 on November 07, 2013, 09:51:05 PM You and me both. Since the Bellicose is on my wantlist, If I do get an Emerald equipped saber I will probably go with that. An Emerald Bellicose tricked out with all the options (except recharge port) would be $431.50, that's not as bad I thought it would be. Still pricey, but doable. I'm going to have to get one of these to try before the end of the year, that $400+ price is a little steep for me but well worth what you are getting I believe. I'm interested in getting a Shock but haven't figured out what blade color to get it in so this could be the way to go for it. My first emerald saber will probably be either a Shock or a Bellicose, I love the Bellicose I have and would like to get another one. I'm definitely going to see what US does for their Black Friday and Cyber Monday sales. Either that or hold off for the last raffle if it happens in December. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Azean on November 07, 2013, 11:00:41 PM Hmm I had forgotten about the shock, I have a soft spot for the dark shock, tbh its a tough choice picking the 'right' hilt for my first emerald saber. If I didn't already own a guardian that would prob be the obv choice as its one of my favourite hilt designs, decisions, decisions (though tbh that's prob not a bad thing as I can save a few more pennies while I decide ;))
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: haldir on November 08, 2013, 02:17:16 AM He did say in the video that you can make the same amber as the RGBA with the RGBW, but if you don't get the RGBW you won't be able to get as much of a pure white or be able to add that pure white to other colors. Since he recommended in the video to get RGBW, that's what I would get if I was making one. can someone please explain what the benefit of getting the RGBA over the RGBW would be? If you can make the same amber color as the RGBA with the RGBW.... but you cant make the same white with the RGBA as the RGBW.... then it only seems logical that there is no reason to get the RGBA when the RGBW exists.... if the RGBW makes every color possible, but the RGBA makes every color except pure white, then why even offer the RGBA? I just want to make sure i understand all this so i can make an informed purchase thanks Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: MikeOretta on November 08, 2013, 02:25:27 AM can someone please explain what the benefit of getting the RGBA over the RGBW would be? If you can make the same amber color as the RGBA with the RGBW.... but you cant make the same white with the RGBA as the RGBW.... then it only seems logical that there is no reason to get the RGBA when the RGBW exists.... if the RGBW makes every color possible, but the RGBA makes every color except pure white, then why even offer the RGBA? I just want to make sure i understand all this so i can make an informed purchase thanks The amber allows for deeper oranges and yellow colors. Off white is very popular especially with a pod racer desert font. The amber helps warm up all of your colors rather than a cold white and amber is an easier color to mix. The white may make some colors lighter but the amber makes them richer if that makes sense. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: haldir on November 08, 2013, 02:53:17 AM The amber allows for deeper oranges and yellow colors. Off white is very popular especially with a pod racer desert font. The amber helps warm up all of your colors rather than a cold white and amber is an easier color to mix. The white may make some colors lighter but the amber makes them richer if that makes sense. ;D Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: MikeOretta on November 08, 2013, 03:25:33 AM ;D although I could be wrong, let someone else chime in their opinion. Hopefully Ultra himself or Deep. Depends on how they have their LED set up and which brand they choose yada yada. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: NiNscorp75 on November 08, 2013, 03:08:29 PM does anyone know if you can send in your saber to get the driver installed? would luv to get it in my Archon V2
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Racona Nova on November 08, 2013, 03:12:48 PM I think they will do if you email them. Just say what saber you have so that they can check if it's possible (space inside the saber etc.)! If it's possible, they will do it. You only have to prepare for the relatively high costs ^^
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Sciggs on November 08, 2013, 03:19:19 PM although I could be wrong, let someone else chime in their opinion. Hopefully Ultra himself or Deep. Depends on how they have their LED set up and which brand they choose yada yada. My opinion is that you're right. RGBW is great for making cooler colors and pastels, but isn't that good at making deep oranges or ambers. I personally am going to get a RGBA because I love the warmer colors and I don't like pastels anyway. You won't get a true white with RGBA but it will be pretty close, unless you specifically want a pure white blade. I personally would just drop a few more points of blue (or technically, less of the other colors) because a slight blue registers as almost pure white to our eyes any way. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Genkaku Sho`shyk on November 08, 2013, 03:35:55 PM most definitely need to know if we can send our hilts in for upgraded?.... "AKA buy the emerald card and have it installed by the US guys" OOORR ..... a link on the site to order a card and RGBW LED unit package .. for the DIY'er... im VERY interested in this... VERY... like... my paypal account is about to be filled and payed off, and im thinking i might grab 2-3 "emerald+RGBW LED" if this is doable... i suppose when i am ready i shall just send them a letter asking if such can be done, and the powers that be shall answer ^.^
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Krace on November 08, 2013, 03:58:31 PM most definitely need to know if we can send our hilts in for upgraded?.... "AKA buy the emerald card and have it installed by the US guys" OOORR ..... a link on the site to order a card and RGBW LED unit package .. for the DIY'er... im VERY interested in this... VERY... like... my paypal account is about to be filled and payed off, and im thinking i might grab 2-3 "emerald+RGBW LED" if this is doable... i suppose when i am ready i shall just send them a letter asking if such can be done, and the powers that be shall answer ^.^ I'm sure hilts can be sent in for upgrade. It will probably cost you $200+ or even $300+ because of the LED and the new Emerald driver board. They have the Emerald 2-channel MLS LED unit for sale for $60 and so you can guess the 4-channel would be more plus whatever the board might cost plus labor. Doing it yourself I guess would require you to email them about getting the parts. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Racona Nova on November 08, 2013, 08:47:24 PM That's almost an entire saber :o I think it would be better to just order a new saber with the Emerald board rather than upgrade an existing one...if the costs are about as high as you assume.
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Darth Nekesus on November 08, 2013, 10:20:36 PM I'm sure hilts can be sent in for upgrade. It will probably cost you $200+ or even $300+ because of the LED and the new Emerald driver board. They have the Emerald 2-channel MLS LED unit for sale for $60 and so you can guess the 4-channel would be more plus whatever the board might cost plus labor. Doing it yourself I guess would require you to email them about getting the parts. The cost for upgrades would be only the cost of the Emerald package that you are getting added. If you are getting sound than the price would be the cost of the two together. but if you already have Obsidian sound on your saber and just want the upgrade to Emerald, than you would only be paying $140 (or $90 depending on which LED setup you get) plus the cost of shipping. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Deep on November 08, 2013, 10:31:04 PM can someone please explain what the benefit of getting the RGBA over the RGBW would be? If you can make the same amber color as the RGBA with the RGBW.... but you cant make the same white with the RGBA as the RGBW.... then it only seems logical that there is no reason to get the RGBA when the RGBW exists.... if the RGBW makes every color possible, but the RGBA makes every color except pure white, then why even offer the RGBA? I just want to make sure i understand all this so i can make an informed purchase thanks There is no benefit to getting RGBA over RGBW as a matter of fact it's highly unrecommended. There is no good reason to select RGBA, but some people may want to get creative with their color combination so we offer it so that our more unique customers can get what they want. But I can't think of a good reason to ever select it. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Tsurabisu on November 09, 2013, 04:53:07 AM C'mon tax time! I'm definitely getting one. Hopefully they'll be able to get the Dark Monarch with Emerald and Sound. I'd kill for that!
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: MikeOretta on November 09, 2013, 12:36:26 PM C'mon tax time! I'm definitely getting one. Hopefully they'll be able to get the Dark Monarch with Emerald and Sound. I'd kill for that! Yeah a lot of sabers aren't listed for emerald and I don't know if its because they aren't capable or if they are just out of stock. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Slaxxor on November 09, 2013, 02:13:53 PM Remove the Kill Key and just get a Recharge Port imo. Kill Keys are pointless and grand waste of cash. Again, just my opinion. I like the Kill Key option, personally. I like knowing when I have my saber turned Off, that it is really Off. I know I could take the batteries out, but one of the main advantages to having a recharge port is not having to pull the guts out to remove the batteries. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: jedicri on November 09, 2013, 04:38:35 PM I like the Kill Key option, personally. I like knowing when I have my saber turned Off, that it is really Off. I know I could take the batteries out, but one of the main advantages to having a recharge port is not having to pull the guts out to remove the batteries. I agree. Moreover, not also is it a matter of personal convenience, but it also saves wear and tear on the battery holder. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: haldir on November 09, 2013, 11:47:14 PM im so excited for this lol ;D
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Waxman on November 10, 2013, 03:06:16 AM Is there any additional energy requirement for this setup or is it pretty much the same?
For example, certain colors obviously last longer then others. I have noticed that Green, Blue, and Violet Amethyst apparently last the longest, VA in terms that once the color fades it's still a bright red. But other more intense colors like Yellow burn through batteries much more quickly. With this new setup allowing for pulsing, FoC of all kinds, and pretty much using every color imaginable, not to mention sound as an available option, I'd imagine they would be pretty demanding? Or, is it all the same more or less? Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Deep on November 10, 2013, 04:16:17 PM I like the Kill Key option, personally. I like knowing when I have my saber turned Off, that it is really Off. I know I could take the batteries out, but one of the main advantages to having a recharge port is not having to pull the guts out to remove the batteries. Just seems to me if you are going to take the time to plug in a kill key, you could just plug the charger into the saber (without a kill key) effectively eliminating any drain on the batteries. However, we do sale sabers with kill keys to our customers that either like them or don't know what they are and buy them anyway. I just make it clear to anyone that asks that I believe for the extreme cost associated with the addition of a kill key, it's not worth it nor does it add any value or functionality to the saber. Recharge Ports = AWESOME, one of the best features we ever added. KILL KEYS = overpriced, pointless Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: jedicri on November 10, 2013, 09:45:03 PM Just seems to me if you are going to take the time to plug in a kill key, you could just plug the charger into the saber (without a kill key) effectively eliminating any drain on the batteries. True enough but for those who have display stands, some prefer to display their sabers on these and having to keep taking out the batteries is not just for everyone. It really is all about personal convenience. Moreover, a saber on a stand with the charger wires showing isn't a nice thing to see on a display case. Quote However, we do sale sabers with kill keys to our customers that either like them or don't know what they are and buy them anyway. I just make it clear to anyone that asks that I believe for the extreme cost associated with the addition of a kill key, it's not worth it nor does it add any value or functionality to the saber. Recharge Ports = AWESOME, one of the best features we ever added. KILL KEYS = overpriced, pointless Point taken. To each his/her own I say. Kill keys can be very useful at cons since it minimizes the frequency of having to change out your batteries. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: MikeOretta on November 10, 2013, 10:20:22 PM Kill keys are really only for accent LEDS that are going to be blinking or on all the time. Ultrasabers obsidian draws little power from the battery while in idle mode. The new feature which allows you to have the AV switch on at all times would be a good example to have a kill key so the saber isn't dead the next time you get it out.
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Deep on November 11, 2013, 02:15:14 AM True enough but for those who have display stands, some prefer to display their sabers on these and having to keep taking out the batteries is not just for everyone. It really is all about personal convenience. Moreover, a saber on a stand with the charger wires showing isn't a nice thing to see on a display case. Point taken. To each his/her own I say. Kill keys can be very useful at cons since it minimizes the frequency of having to change out your batteries. Your Obsidian saber idling at 0.19 mA for a full 12 hour day at a convention until you can charge it would effectively draw 0.0018% of the capacity of two 900 mAh batteries. I wouldn't call preventing that very useful. I just think there is a lot of misinformation being spread about Kill Keys, causing customers to waste their money on them. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Deep on November 11, 2013, 02:18:46 AM Kill keys are really only for accent LEDS that are going to be blinking or on all the time. Ultrasabers obsidian draws little power from the battery while in idle mode. The new feature which allows you to have the AV switch on at all times would be a good example to have a kill key so the saber isn't dead the next time you get it out. Totally agree. A 20 mA draw is certainly a number to be more concerned with. With this kind of setup a kill key could be of some use if you want to use all 4 channels for the LED. Of course, also if you choose to have the AV switch on at all times, seems [kind of] counter-intuitive to pay a ton of money for a feature, namely a kill key install, that will prevent that from happening. :-\ Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Azean on November 11, 2013, 10:20:30 AM Totally agree. A 20 mA draw is certainly a number to be more concerned with. With this kind of setup a kill key could be of some use if you want to use all 4 channels for the LED. Of course, also if you choose to have the AV switch on at all times, seems [kind of] counter-intuitive to pay a ton of money for a feature, namely a kill key install, that will prevent that from happening. :-\ Lol, that does seem a little odd to me when you put it like that although I have considered buying a saber with a kill key in the past but could never justify the cost, charging port on the other hand would be cool Have been wondering if you choose to have the AV switch in series with a channel you keep the led but the AV switch led will be subject to what every you have decided to do with that channel led, so my question is, if you have the AV switch dedicated to a channel, lets say 4, will you be able to do funky things with the AV switch like getting it to pulse etc as you could with the white led it would otherwise be wired to ? Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Racona Nova on November 11, 2013, 06:50:57 PM Have been wondering if you choose to have the AV switch in series with a channel you keep the led but the AV switch led will be subject to what every you have decided to do with that channel led, so my question is, if you have the AV switch dedicated to a channel, lets say 4, will you be able to do funky things with the AV switch like getting it to pulse etc as you could with the white led it would otherwise be wired to ? In addition to that question: Will you be able to change switch colours the same way as the blade colour when the switch has its own channel? And will this specific switch channel also be available for changing blade colours?Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Redspo0n on November 11, 2013, 07:22:38 PM Would a 2channel R+B cover all my bases for BR, DVA, VA, and BH?
Been lurking and researching and... drooling... for a while now, but with daily deal, raffle, AND the new Emerald setups, I'm on the cusp of throwing down my first order. I LOVE the wicked purples, and good old red for duelling my yoda-esque 4yo, but if I can accomplish all of those colours with a 2channel R+B and save a little cash it leaves room to personalize a little more later on. Picture Arbiter DVA, pulse VA, FoC BH, with a purple dyed leather wrap, a little custom engraving and some royal purple acrylic paint... But I'm getting ahead of myself. ;D So yeah.. 2channel R+B = DVA, VA, and BH? Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: borgishmorg on November 11, 2013, 07:39:12 PM So I know that people were already talking about sending in sabers for upgrading, but what about buying a stunt emerald saber, with li-ion setup and 4 channels, and then sending it in at a later date to have sound added? Would that be possible? If so, how much would that most likely cost? (The upgrade I mean)
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Deep on November 11, 2013, 07:45:24 PM Lol, that does seem a little odd to me when you put it like that although I have considered buying a saber with a kill key in the past but could never justify the cost, charging port on the other hand would be cool Have been wondering if you choose to have the AV switch in series with a channel you keep the led but the AV switch led will be subject to what every you have decided to do with that channel led, so my question is, if you have the AV switch dedicated to a channel, lets say 4, will you be able to do funky things with the AV switch like getting it to pulse etc as you could with the white led it would otherwise be wired to ? Correct, the AV switch would "pulse" (as much as an AV switch can pulse) and turn on and off along with whatever LED diode color you have connected to that channel. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Deep on November 11, 2013, 07:46:26 PM In addition to that question: Will you be able to change switch colours the same way as the blade colour when the switch has its own channel? And will this specific switch channel also be available for changing blade colours? No, the AV switches will not change color. They will remain the color of the AV switch you select in the listing. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Racona Nova on November 11, 2013, 08:14:44 PM Okay, thanks Deep :)
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Azean on November 11, 2013, 08:59:30 PM Thanks Deep, that's what I though, trying to choose between the AV switch being on direct drive or dedicated to channel 4
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: haldir on November 12, 2013, 12:59:33 AM Is channel 4 (white) only used for flash on clash, or can it also be used to make colors? Are the different colors made using only the Red, Green, and Blue? (not sure if the white led mixes well with the other colors)
I am asking because im trying to decide if i will get the AV switch on its own channel (4).... or get it in series with one of the blade channels. If the white led is just used for FOC then i would get the AV switch on its own channel.... however, if the white led IS utilized to help manipulate different colors ( like maybe it helps lighten them up or something?) then i wouldn't want to miss out on that and i would probably get the AV in series with a blade channel. thanks for the help Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Kannik on November 12, 2013, 03:09:28 AM THIS is why I love ultrasabres -- what an amazing setup this is, with delicious programmability to boot! No muss, no BS, and excellent service.
You know, if I had to chose between a new roof and one of these beauts... it's a tough call. (Well, actually the roof's already done, alas... ) ;) I've got visions of more sabres to covet, Peace, Kannik Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Vyk on November 12, 2013, 05:23:56 AM Is channel 4 (white) only used for flash on clash, or can it also be used to make colors? Are the different colors made using only the Red, Green, and Blue? (not sure if the white led mixes well with the other colors) Both. You can use the white as a pure white just for FoC, or use it as a pure white as the normal blade color, or use it to make a light-colored saber. That said, you can do all of that with just RGB, also, it's just going to be slightly more difficult and may take some tweaking to get the pure white you're looking for.I am asking because im trying to decide if i will get the AV switch on its own channel (4).... or get it in series with one of the blade channels. If the white led is just used for FOC then i would get the AV switch on its own channel.... however, if the white led IS utilized to help manipulate different colors ( like maybe it helps lighten them up or something?) then i wouldn't want to miss out on that and i would probably get the AV in series with a blade channel. thanks for the help For example, let's say you wanted a pink saber (for some reason ;) ). With RGBA, you'd set perhaps 30,0,0,255 and end up with a fairly light pink. If you assigned channel 4 to the AV switch only, you'd have to go for perhaps 255,230,230 to get a similar shade. (Note that I don't have an Emerald yet--I'm just going from what I know of colors--so take these as examples, not as precise numbers.) I'm having the same dilemma that you are. Lose white and get independent control of the AV switch, or keep white and have them linked? I think I'll assign channel 4 to AV only, since I don't think I'll lose much. (Note that if you weren't using the white LED--perhaps you wanted the reddest red you could get--your AV switch wouldn't glow if it were on the same channel as white.) Here's one other option I've considered, though: if I had a primary-colored AV switch (let's say green), I might assign it to that color's channel (in this case, channel 2). If I had green off (thus a purple blade) I probably don't want a green AV switch shining anyway. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: haldir on November 12, 2013, 07:59:53 PM What colors are currently made using the amber LED? Aren't all the colors, even the forum colors, made using the RGB LED?
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Sciggs on November 12, 2013, 08:04:07 PM I could be wrong, but I believe FO is made using an amber LED.
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Darth Nekesus on November 12, 2013, 08:18:33 PM I believe FO is purely an amber LED and I think PO is made using an amber and red LED although I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: DARTH CH3M15T on November 13, 2013, 10:21:28 AM Just saw the post for the release of this new saber. I need it. lol. Looks amazing with all the possibilities. Like the idol pulse feature. Freakin fantastic. Bloody good work US. I don't want one tho. i think i need two of these bad boys. Time to start saving up.
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Wavebuster on November 14, 2013, 07:12:04 PM If I'm understanding this correctly, you have to interface with the computer to change colors through the emerald driver, right? That is, if you're actively using the emerald saber you can't change colors or anything without stopping to work on the computer first?
Just wondering if I have a reason to get this over the RBG options I've seen for true on-the-fly color switching. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: haldir on November 14, 2013, 08:01:42 PM If I'm understanding this correctly, you have to interface with the computer to change colors through the emerald driver, right? That is, if you're actively using the emerald saber you can't change colors or anything without stopping to work on the computer first? Just wondering if I have a reason to get this over the RBG options I've seen for true on-the-fly color switching. Ya it won't Be as convenient as the RGB but you'll have more control and u get the pulse mode Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Vyk on November 14, 2013, 09:51:20 PM If I'm understanding this correctly, you have to interface with the computer to change colors through the emerald driver, right? That is, if you're actively using the emerald saber you can't change colors or anything without stopping to work on the computer first? Basically, if you want to be able to switch colors whenever you like (you could do it mid-swing if you were so inclined), go with the classic RGB. Emerald doesn't give you that sort of on-the-fly option, but gives you much more fine-grained control of color along with the new pulse feature. Emerald gives you literally 600 million times as many color options as a classic RGB Ultrasaber (not counting pulse and FoC): 4.2 billion combinations vs 7. I'm not very familiar with other LED drivers on the market, but I'm pretty confident none of them will switch between billions (or even millions) of colors on the fly. :) (Although it would be kind of fun to see a hilt made entirely of DIP switches.)Just wondering if I have a reason to get this over the RBG options I've seen for true on-the-fly color switching. Put differently, RGB effectively gives you 7 colors in one saber, selectable at any time. Emerald gives you one color (or pulse combination), but it can be whatever you want it to be today. If you want to change colors depending on who you're sparring with over the course of one day, go RGB. If you want to make your saber match your mood/outfit/whim/whatever, go Emerald. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: haldir on November 16, 2013, 08:30:37 PM What does "S" stand for when selecting colors for the 2 channel driver?
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: MikeOretta on November 16, 2013, 08:36:03 PM Basically, if you want to be able to switch colors whenever you like (you could do it mid-swing if you were so inclined), go with the classic RGB. Emerald doesn't give you that sort of on-the-fly option, but gives you much more fine-grained control of color along with the new pulse feature. Emerald gives you literally 600 million times as many color options as a classic RGB Ultrasaber (not counting pulse and FoC): 4.2 billion combinations vs 7. I'm not very familiar with other LED drivers on the market, but I'm pretty confident none of them will switch between billions (or even millions) of colors on the fly. :) (Although it would be kind of fun to see a hilt made entirely of DIP switches.) Put differently, RGB effectively gives you 7 colors in one saber, selectable at any time. Emerald gives you one color (or pulse combination), but it can be whatever you want it to be today. If you want to change colors depending on who you're sparring with over the course of one day, go RGB. If you want to make your saber match your mood/outfit/whim/whatever, go Emerald. Not to mention emerald is an only option for sabers that can't have rgb like the guardian or graflex. I wouldn't even want rgb on those sabers but I would want emerald on an archon. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Vyk on November 17, 2013, 03:15:46 AM What does "S" stand for when selecting colors for the 2 channel driver? "Silver," aka white. :)Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Avarius on November 17, 2013, 04:19:55 AM I thought it stood for "Sexy". Oh well... *shrugs shoulders*
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: haldir on November 17, 2013, 06:09:10 PM I had a feeling that "S" stood for silver, but why label the white LED "W" on the 4 channel set up and "S" on the 2 channel set up?
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Rina Ascura on November 19, 2013, 04:25:07 AM Can I order the Emerald LED driver and a RGB LED separately to install them into my saber by myself?
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Aletani on November 19, 2013, 06:05:56 AM Can I order the Emerald LED driver and a RGB LED separately to install them into my saber by myself? I'd say look at the "build your own" tab on their page, see if they're offering it there, if not you could probably email them to see what they'd do for you. :) Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Krace on November 19, 2013, 01:09:34 PM Can I order the Emerald LED driver and a RGB LED separately to install them into my saber by myself? The Emerald 4-channel LEDs are not up in the DIY section nor do I see the new Emerald driver boards. I also don't see any RGB parts. I think the two systems are incompatible due to how the Emerald uses a new hardware. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Vyk on November 19, 2013, 06:57:24 PM The Emerald 4-channel LEDs are not up in the DIY section nor do I see the new Emerald driver boards. I also don't see any RGB parts. I think the two systems are incompatible due to how the Emerald uses a new hardware. The "classic" RGB system is definitely incompatible with the Emerald system. They use the same LEDs, but drive them in different ways. Essentially, a classic RGB saber has one power switch each for R, G, and B, and FoC of either white or amber, thus a RGBW or RGBA LED. Emerald has a separate channel for each of those with the ability to split power between them arbitrarily.I believe Rina Ascura's question was in line with this; I interpreted her question as asking if she could order the Emerald board and the RGBW or RGBA LED required to use it. Unfortunately, the answer currently appears to be "no." I expect that both will become available soon; in the meantime, while you can source the RGBW/RGBA LED elsewhere, Ultrasabers is the only source for the Emerald driver or the aluminum module that the LED sits in. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Quildra on November 20, 2013, 10:52:18 AM Has there been any word on when the 4 channels will be available for "build your own lightsaber"? I'm looking at buying and building my first saber (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=17119.0) and would most likely wait for them to become available if it was too far off.
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Krace on November 20, 2013, 02:36:46 PM Has there been any word on when the 4 channels will be available for "build your own lightsaber"? I'm looking at buying and building my first saber ([url]http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=17119.0[/url]) and would most likely wait for them to become available if it was too far off. There has been no official word on it yet. Keep in mind, with the 2 or 4 channel Emerald LED, I think you'd have to get the Emerald board shown in the videos too and I believe that is a separate cost as I don't see it coming with the 2-channel Emerald LEDs that are listed already. Also, this eliminates the need for the Buckpuck in your build plan, and would make going with Li-Ion even better. I suggest also that you go for sound. I know that cost hurts, but if you're going to go through the trouble of wiring up emerald, you might as well not have to do it again. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: realmoe on November 20, 2013, 03:18:49 PM My question is how do adjust the color and settings? Is it all in the soundboard software? Do you have to remove it and hook up via usb same as soundboard? Can you install a knob with a rotary switch to change color on the fly?
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Krace on November 20, 2013, 03:45:53 PM If you check the videos, there is a software interface to change colors. You need to have the new Obsidian Launcher for the Emerald stuff. I think even if you have a recharge port, you must remove the assembly to get to the USB port for the Emerald board. I believe the recharge port, if you have one, connects to the Obsidian Sound board and the batteries only. Perhaps in the future they might make a port able to connect to the Emerald. Changing colors on the fly isn't available as far as I saw in the videos. It seems to have to be done on the software.
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Darth Nekesus on November 21, 2013, 01:40:01 AM My question is how do adjust the color and settings? Is it all in the soundboard software? Do you have to remove it and hook up via usb same as soundboard? Can you install a knob with a rotary switch to change color on the fly? No this can not be done unless you custom wire your LED but the Emerald would not be necessary to do this. If you check the videos, there is a software interface to change colors. You need to have the new Obsidian Launcher for the Emerald stuff. I think even if you have a recharge port, you must remove the assembly to get to the USB port for the Emerald board. I believe the recharge port, if you have one, connects to the Obsidian Sound board and the batteries only. Perhaps in the future they might make a port able to connect to the Emerald. Changing colors on the fly isn't available as far as I saw in the videos. It seems to have to be done on the software. The recharge port can only be used to charge your batteries. It does not hook up to the Obsidian board. For this you have to remove the battery assembly (which has the Obsidian and/or Emerald attached to it) and plug your soundboard directly into your computer via USB cable. The same would be done for the Emerald. Has there been any word on when the 4 channels will be available for "build your own lightsaber"? I'm looking at buying and building my first saber ([url]http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=17119.0[/url]) and would most likely wait for them to become available if it was too far off. Unless you have experience with wiring than I would not suggest doing this because the wiring will be a lot more complex than just a standard saber or even one with sound. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Jedijosh on November 21, 2013, 06:24:21 AM Good advice Nekesus, although the an emerald custom saber would be awesome in its own right. :)
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Krace on December 03, 2013, 09:16:33 PM Any chance we can get a sticky on this thread since we've already had moderators answering questions about Emerald here? Seems like we've accumulated a fair bit of good Q&A about the system and it would be good for people to be able to come here and look.
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Tyl Kindarin on December 04, 2013, 08:30:23 PM This may be a dull question, but if you opt for a non-illuminated AV switch, does the AV switch channel affect anything? I figure that the answer is no since the non-illuminated AV switch has no, well, illumination, but I wasn't sure if it might still draw some amperage somehow.
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: James Casey on December 04, 2013, 09:24:45 PM I'd like to know that too. If I get an Emerald 'sabre, I'd like to have an AV switch but how to configure it is the thing that I've not yet figured out.
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Kal-El on December 04, 2013, 09:29:59 PM Basically if you want an a/v switch to light up but not be on all the time, you should connect it to channel 4 (not in series)
Emory was very specific in the release videos. I know it is a few minutes to watch but well worth the information. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: haldir on December 04, 2013, 10:22:04 PM If u dedicate the AV to channel 4 then u lose the 4th color, which is either white or amber.
What we need to know is what exactly does the 4th color actually bring to the emerald set up. I don't want to spend all the $ on the emerald unless I can actually make every color. If the white and amber LED are actually useful when mixing colors then I don't want to sacrifice them just for the AV. Can someone with the 4channel comment on how the white and amber LEd add to the color mixing ability of the emerald driver? So far all we have is speculation. I have a feeling that the first 3 channels are all that really matter but it would be nice to confirm b4 I place my order Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Darth Nekesus on December 04, 2013, 10:26:22 PM Give me like three weeks and I can tell you.
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: James Casey on December 04, 2013, 10:33:06 PM Yeah, what haldir said - I've been meaning to ask that for a while :D
I like my silver blade, and I assume that you can't get pure white without the actual white LED illuminated. If not, then it seems like it'd have to be the non-illuminated switch. It's only a small thing, but even having watched the video this seems to be only way to have all four colours - unless I have this wrong. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Krace on December 04, 2013, 10:36:21 PM If u dedicate the AV to channel 4 then u lose the 4th color, which is either white or amber. What we need to know is what exactly does the 4th color actually bring to the emerald set up. I don't want to spend all the $ on the emerald unless I can actually make every color. If the white and amber LED are actually useful when mixing colors then I don't want to sacrifice them just for the AV. Can someone with the 4channel comment on how the white and amber LEd add to the color mixing ability of the emerald driver? So far all we have is speculation. I have a feeling that the first 3 channels are all that really matter but it would be nice to confirm b4 I place my order Here is your answer from Deep himself on a previous chain that haldir asked. He did say in the video that you can make the same amber as the RGBA with the RGBW, but if you don't get the RGBW you won't be able to get as much of a pure white or be able to add that pure white to other colors. Since he recommended in the video to get RGBW, that's what I would get if I was making one. can someone please explain what the benefit of getting the RGBA over the RGBW would be? If you can make the same amber color as the RGBA with the RGBW.... but you cant make the same white with the RGBA as the RGBW.... then it only seems logical that there is no reason to get the RGBA when the RGBW exists.... if the RGBW makes every color possible, but the RGBA makes every color except pure white, then why even offer the RGBA? I just want to make sure i understand all this so i can make an informed purchase thanks There is no benefit to getting RGBA over RGBW as a matter of fact it's highly unrecommended. There is no good reason to select RGBA, but some people may want to get creative with their color combination so we offer it so that our more unique customers can get what they want. But I can't think of a good reason to ever select it. White appears to be the optimal choice. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: haldir on December 04, 2013, 10:46:29 PM That doesn't completly answer the question or satisfy my curiosity.
It seems that, from what deep said, the amber LED does contribute to color mixing in a unique way. It's not clear if white actually contributes to color mixing, just that PURE white is only possible with that LED Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Sciggs on December 04, 2013, 10:52:19 PM Losing the 4th channel won't interfere with your standard color mixing. With the RGBW you will lose the ability for "pure" white and for pastel colors, but that is it, really. With the RGBA you will lose the ability to make warmer shades of yellows, oranges, and reds. The amber LED offers odd color combos, like a type of flesh tone, or a peachy color. But same thing applies, those few odd colors or your warmer oranges are the only things you'd lose not having the 4th channel.
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: James Casey on December 04, 2013, 10:59:02 PM Haldir, looking through the video again my understanding is that if you set the AV to be in sequence with one of the channels, it'll light up in line with that channel, to the extent that channel is set too - so if it's in line with channel 4 on the RGBW and you have full white, your switch will be pure white, if you have it set to half white then the switch will be dimmer. You don't lose that colour or its ability to mix with the others, but the AV switch is wholly dependent on it.
Again, I think that's right... but I may be way off base :D Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: haldir on December 05, 2013, 01:04:27 AM James that's my understanding of it too. I guess we need some photos of these "pastel" and "warmer" colors that may be possible to create using the 4th channel so we can decide wether to get white or amber, or just dedicate Chanel 4 to the AV.
I'm hesitant to order it with the AV on ch4 becuz I don't just want "standard" colors, I want to be able to create ANY color. I Am under the impression that all the colors ultra sabers sells Are made by mixing red green and blue. This means that none of us has a seen an LED that mixes W or A with R,G, or B. None of us knows what these "pastel" or "warmer " colors looks like. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Kal-El on December 05, 2013, 04:56:26 AM If you choose to have the a/v in series then yes everything that is done to that channel will affect the switch but if you dedicate it to the forth channel then you'll find on the loss of brightness minimal, at least on the rgbw.
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Sciggs on December 05, 2013, 05:15:40 AM So, if hypothetically you had the A/V switch in line with channel 4 of a RGBW set up, then would you have to have White set all the way up at 255 for the A/V switch to light up? Wouldn't that wash out, say, a blue (if you had only blue set to 255) and create a pastel-y blue? If you wanted a guardian blue color then, would you have to sacrifice your A/V switch and turn the White all the way down?
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Darth Nekesus on December 05, 2013, 05:20:56 AM So, if hypothetically you had the A/V switch in line with channel 4 of a RGBW set up, then would you have to have White set all the way up at 255 for the A/V switch to light up? Wouldn't that wash out, say, a blue (if you had only blue set to 255) and create a pastel-y blue? If you wanted a guardian blue color then, would you have to sacrifice your A/V switch and turn the White all the way down? Essentially. But you wouldn't have to have channel 4 set to 255 for the AV switch to light up. It would only be as bright as you set it to be. of course you could always have it ran direct drive so that you don't have to worry about any of that.. Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Racona Nova on December 05, 2013, 03:35:20 PM Glad to hear that...I was still unsure whether my switch should be dedicated to Ch4 or on Direct Drive.
What would actually happen if the switch is in line with Ch4, but its colour is green, for example. When Ch4 is off, the switch would be off, too (if I didn't misunderstand the vids and the discussion here). Is that right? And what would happen if Ch4 is only set to lower values than 255? Would the switch colour be dimmer than normal? Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: haldir on December 05, 2013, 05:58:42 PM Glad to hear that...I was still unsure whether my switch should be dedicated to Ch4 or on Direct Drive. What would actually happen if the switch is in line with Ch4, but its colour is green, for example. When Ch4 is off, the switch would be off, too (if I didn't misunderstand the vids and the discussion here). Is that right? And what would happen if Ch4 is only set to lower values than 255? Would the switch colour be dimmer than normal? That sounds about right, if ch4 is dedicated to the AV then you should be able to dim the AV like you would with any other channel, but ch4 is for white or amber, I don't know if u can pick what colors go on what channel Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Racona Nova on December 05, 2013, 09:00:24 PM Well, I thought that a channel is only a wire going from the Driver to the LED without any colour specifity. In general Channel 1 is leading to the red diode, but it could theoretically lead to green instead...just a question of nomenclature I think. So Channel 4 is the wire leading to the white/amber diode and only active if power is applied to this channel. If a switch (no matter what colour) is in line with it, it would only light up if ch4 is set to at least 1...if I didn't misunderstand the function of the driver and channels. If so, then please correct me :)
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: haldir on December 05, 2013, 10:26:58 PM That's the way I understand it, the channels are just wires, or whatever, that connects the led diodes to the driver. Ultra sabers wires them all in the same order, ch4 regulates the white or amber diode and that's I have been ch4 as though it were the white or amber Led (hope that makes sense)
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Darth_Phobius47 on December 07, 2013, 04:56:43 AM If I do get the 4 channel and sound, I'm getting a momentary or non-illuminated AV switch so I don't have to dedicate a channel. I want all 4 channels for mixing!
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Racona Nova on December 07, 2013, 03:48:23 PM That would be my second option since the switch colour wouldn't match all of the possible Emerald colours...well, silver is the overall solution 'cause it can go with any colour, but I don't really want a silver one ^^ Either a coloured one or a non-illuminated AV.
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: haldir on December 08, 2013, 10:03:55 PM which channel is red? ch.1?
also, what colors are made using the red die? Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Krace on December 08, 2013, 10:37:59 PM No idea which channel is red, but I am pretty sure you can go to your basic color wheel and there are going to be a whole slew of colors that use it. VA, DVA, PO, FO, Bane's heart, Hot Pink to name a few. The thing with Emerald is there will be a whole color palette to blend and work with.
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: haldir on December 08, 2013, 11:23:18 PM No idea which channel is red, but I am pretty sure you can go to your basic color wheel and there are going to be a whole slew of colors that use it. VA, DVA, PO, FO, Bane's heart, Hot Pink to name a few. The thing with Emerald is there will be a whole color palette to blend and work with. I am thinking about getting a red av and having it in series with the red channel. I am curious which channel is for red... I am assuming it is ch 1? I am curious which of the colors (standard and forum) are made with red... my guess is PO, SY, VA, DVA, BH? Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: nsgallup on December 09, 2013, 01:13:56 AM Quick question, what ratios would you use on a RGBW to get orange shades?
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Darth_Phobius47 on December 09, 2013, 03:45:54 AM I would say red & green mixing for orange.
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Darth Nekesus on December 09, 2013, 03:48:11 AM It all depends on what shade of orange you want.
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: nsgallup on December 09, 2013, 04:02:19 AM It all depends on what shade of orange you want. Say PO Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Darth Nekesus on December 09, 2013, 04:09:58 AM I would say try around 255 red and maybe 150-100 green. I don't have my saber yet so I can't be sure but try it out anyway.
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: nsgallup on December 09, 2013, 04:17:42 AM I would say try around 255 red and maybe 150-100 green. I don't have my saber yet so I can't be sure but try it out anyway. I'll try it out when I get mine, will return with results Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Darth Nekesus on December 09, 2013, 04:21:39 AM Depending on when you get yours I might be able to post a more accurate number for you, but It all depends.
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: nsgallup on December 09, 2013, 04:42:21 AM Depending on when you get yours I might be able to post a more accurate number for you, but It all depends. Cool, I'll keep an eye on this thread Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Deep on December 09, 2013, 05:20:43 AM which channel is red? ch.1? also, what colors are made using the red die? Channel 1 = Always Red Channel 2 = Always Green Channel 3 = Always Blue Channel 4 = White or Amber Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Krace on December 09, 2013, 06:22:47 AM Good to know. Thanks Deep!
Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Amplus Vir on December 10, 2013, 06:48:52 AM Is there any possible way to purchase a four way emerald driver as the LED unit itself. I'm making a hilt in my Metal Shop class on the lathe although after having UltraSabers I want to use the electronics from them to make the saber absolutely epic. I know its not on the site... could it be custom ordered though? Such as the forum colors were.
Thanks :) Title: Re: Ultrasabers Emerald LED Driver is HERE Post by: Racona Nova on December 10, 2013, 03:03:12 PM You can email them at [email protected] and ask if they can do so. Both the LED and MLS modules are available on their website, so you just have to ask for the 4-channel driver ;)
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